The Butt Ugly Weblog

The comments on Park's blog make me fondly remember all the good sides of our established media system. "Because she did it in public, I'll publish it" is a pretty horrible ethical guideline for would-be journalists.

--Hakkis, 30-Jun-2005

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I actually think the comments in there were almost as scary as the story itself. It seems almost every day I learn a new lesson about how cruel and thoughtless people are. Scary shit.

--Outi, 30-Jun-2005

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Well what can (and should) be done about this behavior? There's not much one can do. You should have the right to take a picture and post it, along with comments, on your own blog. If others catch wind of it and post it on their blogs, they should have every right to do that.

If you want to post stupid shit on your blog to try and instigate a mob, beware of the consequences. I'd like to see someone take an embarassing picture of me and post it on their blog. They'll soon see me paying them a visit...

--Phil, 01-Jul-2005

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...and then you would not only be publically ridiculed, but also jailed for assault? Or perhaps you were going to demand that they allow you to serve them a cup of tea?

I think your strategy would probably end up with you being even more rooted in the headlines, and people would go "aww, what a dick - can't even take a bit of humour". And you would lose whatever public compassion you had before this.

You are talking about punishment with your last sentence. Punishment is given for things done *wrong*. However, in the first paragraph you say that people have a *right* to do this. Therefore, the only conclusion I can draw is that you are saying that "it's all right to do whatever you want with everyone else, but not with me."

And that way of thinking doesn't in general go down too well on people, I'm afraid...

--JanneJalkanen, 01-Jul-2005

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Just to be exact: Finnish Criminal Law, 24th section, 8§ says quite explicitly that you are not allowed to publish shit about other people, no matter if it is true or false. Maximum penalty is two years imprisonment.

However, if the matter is relevant to a person's status, then it's okay. E.g. it's okay to say in public that my blog writings suck ass, but it would not be okay to talk about the personal stuff that I don't publish.

Just in case any of my readers didn't know this...

--JanneJalkanen, 01-Jul-2005

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"but also jailed for assault?"

Who said anything about assault?

"aww, what a dick - can't even take a bit of humour"

First you're talking about public mob action, and how a woman can't leave her house without the fear of being attacked....then you call it "a bit of humor" ??

"it's all right to do whatever you want with everyone else, but not with me."

Not at all. You have every right to call me an asshole, and I have every right to get pissed off.

"And that way of thinking doesn't in general go down too well on people, I'm afraid..."

Probably not. But if I was in some situation where I feared a "mob mentality" like you described, what am I supposed to do? You know the police will do nothing. "Mr. Officer, some guy took a picture of me and posted it on his blog, go stop him!!" ...they'll laugh at you. So it situations like that, you might have to take care of things yourself.

The whole point is to PREVENT situations like these. When people sheepishly hide themselves behind their keyboards, people tend to write things they normally wouldn't say to someone's face. If there's a chance that the person you victimized on your blog might come knock at your door...maybe you'll be polite and not write those things? (and no, I'm not talking about assault)

--Phil, 02-Jul-2005

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